Monday, January 22, 2007

And the Cinematography in Airplane was Atrocious.

Rod Dreher doesn't like "24" and has been quite critical of its dialogue.

("The lines were so wooden I thought surely the producers had dragooned The Timbertoes into the writing pool.")

(Me-oww.)

It's worth noting that he also thinks that Smokey & the Bandit had a contrived premise; that the Three Stooges failed to convey the true harm that can be done with blunt-forced trauma; that MythBusters spends too little time on the physics behind their experiments and too much time blowing things up; that Ronin would have been better if Frankenheimer had just edited out those boring car chases; and that The Big Lebowski had a garish production design.

But to rest your mind about Rod's aesthetic tastes, there's a particular bread recipe that he really likes. He really likes this bread.

I mean, he really likes it.

And let us not dare to question Rod's masculinity: after all, he has a beard.

[cough]

9 Comments:

Blogger kathleen said...

well, what i loved was dreher's "sorkin writes great dialogue" line. that's such a freaking canard. no one talks like sorkin dialogue unless they are freaking insufferable and on coke (kinda like...sorkin). sorkin dialogue is like listening to someone read a script aloud while feeling really smart doing it. sorkin dialogue is written to gratify dumb actors who want to make everyone think they are really quick-witted and bright.

rod strikes yet another pet peeve of mine with unfailing accuracy -- "sorkin writes great dialogue". i bet he loves mamet too.

5:30 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

LOL--I'm so out of it...have no idea who Sorkin is.

Have heard of Mamet, though. Does that elevate me just a tad on the Kewl-o-Meter? ;)

BTW, Bubba--I think that Timbertoes line is pretty funny. Rod does have his moments. :)

7:25 AM  
Blogger kathleen said...

http://coalitionforfog1.blogspot.com/2007/01/original-comerford-thread.html

start at 130pm. so deeply funny. my sides are aching.

7:58 AM  
Blogger pikkumatti said...

"sorkin dialogue" sounds great until you realize that what was said is stupid and pretentious.

It is hard to beat this bit of anti-sorkin dialogue from last night's 24:

Jack (to evil brother): Start talking now, or I'll hurt you.

Evil brother (grimacing from pain): You're hurting me now.

Jack: Trust me, I'm not.


I love this show.

8:47 AM  
Blogger Bubba said...

Pikku, I see and raise.

"The only reason that you're conscious right now is because I don't want to carry you."


Diane, the Timbertoes line is funny, for more reasons than one. It's clever, but just scanning through it, it sounds like people were drowned.

But there's the whole context of a line this affected when the complaint is about 24's dialogue. In a comment, Rod adds, "I require them to talk like real people, not like comic book characters."

Ah, yes. Authenticity.

(Like Sorkin?)


And the fact remains, it's ridiculous to complain about the dialogue in 24. I think that, once the premise is granted, it's probably more realistic than Rod gives it credit, but the dialogue is so beside the point of the show.

It's not high art; it's a soap opera for guys. It is a live-action comic book, starting with the very premise, not only of a crisis resolved in (exactly) 24 hours but with a crisis that has (exactly) 23 cliffhangers inevitably at the top of the hour.

It's a complaint that only a painfully self-conscious film critic could make.

9:41 AM  
Blogger kathleen said...

what if they talk like authentic comic book characters?

10:24 AM  
Blogger Bubba said...

Speaking of comic books, I'm not quite sure that Rod can fully appreciate this exquisite moment in comicdom.


And speaking of dialogue, I wonder what sort of writing would work in a crunchy version of 24...

"Dammit, Chloe, we need that bread recipe now! The radical giftedness of a richer and fuller life is at stake! DAMMIT!"

11:30 AM  
Blogger kathleen said...

"come on Chloe, don't go all mainstream on me!"

12:25 PM  
Blogger pikkumatti said...

Just when we thought it couldn't get any better, it does.

Today, Rod distances his blog (entitled "Crunchy Con") from Crunchy Con-ism.

To wit:

As regular readers know, most of the posts here are about daily news events, and don't really have a lot to do with anything discernibly "crunchy."

So NOW I understand. His personal preferences that he mentions in the Crunchy Con blog don't really have anything to do with Crunchy (necessarily). So our ignorant comments about Crunchyism being nothing more than Rod's personal preferences are just that -- ignorant. We're just associating non-Crunchy things with the Big Crunchy, when really they're not Crunchy and never intended to be Crunchy.

Except, of course, for those personal preferences that are in fact Crunchy. Which of course we'd know if only we believed.

Whatever.

4:10 PM  

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